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Originally I mounted my Pocket Rockets beind the standard mounting point (which is known to be pretty forward). That initially felt quite foward (coming from a standard mount on a pair of Power Carves), as it seemed there was almost no tip in front of me. Over time I think I modified my stance (for the better) and got comfortable on them. When I changed to Randonee bindings I mounted them with ball of foot at the center of the running surface which was basically at the marked mounting point for boot midsole and more forward than before. This change forward immediately felt even better. BTW, going back to my Power Carves (which I had alway liked very much) I found I didn’t even want to use them as rock skis given the effects of their mounting position that seemed to put me way back and produce some very negative effects on my stance balance and performance. authentic texans dj swearinger mens jersey
In a recent review of the Metron B5 (in the gear review forum) I noted that I mounted them in the forward position (the Neox bindings allows a forward and a normal position). I am pretty convinced that had I tried them with the normal position I would not have had quite so high an opinion of them. Actually, my sense is that I would like a mounting point even a bit more forward on these. I will be able to do that with the Neox binding by moving both the heel and toe forward. The window that displays the boot sole length will then display incorrectly but the true length will be correct, just somewhat forward (the difference betwee actual and displayed boot sole length). authentic texans deandre hopkins mens jersey
texans deandre hopkins mens jersey My point here is that in my experience, binding mount postion has a noticeable effect that is often only really appreciated over a longer period of time. If the position is relatively more forward than you are used to, it may seem uncomfortable but over time prove to be advantageous (at least for me with my anatomic and boot geometries certainly not all). On the other hand, a position farther back may also lead to a lower opinion of a ski that may respond much more favorably with a more forward position, especially if that is what you are used to.
Perhaps for some the opposite is true and they find a moutning point farther back than normal to be advantageous. Either way I think it is something important to consider in testing skies, reading review, and mounting your owe bindings. authentic texans damaris johnson youth jersey
Si I absolutely agree with you and all of my skis have the bindings mounted farther forward than that recommended by the manufacturer. I mount the bindings so that the center of the running surface is at the point where my arch starts right behind the ball. For me,that is about three cm forward of most manufacturers recomendations. In that position, I am in better balance without as much need for fore and aft movement to make the skis respond. This is especially helpful in moguls or steeps where going forward enough to get the tips to really engage early is tough. randy bullock youth jersey
authentic damaris johnson mens jersey Si, take a piece of 3/4″ plywood and mount a half circle (or two quarter rounds) on the bottom and mark a line on the top surface that corresponds to the center of the half round. When you put the board on the floor it should rock and pivot around you’re line.
Now step onto the board without shoes on and put that line directly under the ball of you’re foot. Now bend you’re knees and move forward onto the ball of you’re foot to get the board to rock forward. Note how much effect it has on you’re balance and you’re comfort. Now gradually move forward one inch and try it again. You will probably find that you are more comfortable and in better balance. There is an optimum point in this exercise where its the best fit. Note the distance between the ball of the foot center and where you ended up with you’re foot over the line and mount the bindings so that balance point on you’re foot corresponding to the line on the plywood is over the center of the skis running surface. Good luck. alfred blue mens jersey
I think a better approach is to play on a balance board with your boots on as they can significantly alter stance and load distribution. This is essentially what a Campbell (sp?) Balancer does. However, these still do not take into account ski characteristics. damaris johnson mens jersey
authentic rahim moore mens jersey I’m very pleased to have a binding where I can change the mounting postion in very small increments (in spite of the fact that it’s actually specified only for 2 positions). While I only think I will play with this initially and then leave it set, I think this is an important characteristic. I would have to have some very good reasons for buying a binding at this point that didn’t allow for some fore aft adjustment.
texans damaris johnson youth jersey I don’t think I can agree with you on this. As I said, I believe boots play a significant role in stance and load distribution (and hence the location of the CM). Forward lean angle alone can change things significantly. Then you have resistance to ankle flexion and extension (dorsi/plantar flexion) that from my perspective significantly alters a persons flex patterns and stance as they crouch down. Finally you have to add in ramp angle, cuff side cant angle, and the list goes on. Then there is ski design (sidecut shape and longitudinal placement on the ski, stiffness pattern, mass distribution, etc.) that also plays a role in the relationship between performance and binding mount location.
So, as a starting point, I would think a balance test with boots and skis (like the Campbell balancer) is probably the best you can do. Beyond that I would think it can be very worthwhile having a moveable binding to further explore mount location before settling on a final choice. For some skiers there might even be advantage to having 2 or 3 different mount locations for different conditions (especially park vs. freeskiing?). rahim moore mens jersey
I don’t think I can agree with you on this. As I said, I believe boots play a significant role in stance and load distribution (and hence the location of the CM). Forward lean angle alone can change things significantly. Then you have resistance to ankle flexion and extension (dorsi/plantar flexion) that from my perspective significantly alters a persons flex patterns and stance as they crouch down. Finally you have to add in ramp angle, cuff side cant angle, and the list goes on. Then there is ski design (sidecut shape and longitudinal placement on the ski, stiffness pattern, mass distribution, etc.) that also plays a role in the relationship between performance and binding mount location. ryan pickett mens jersey
authentic texans cecil shorts iii mens jersey Si I have no idea why you want to make everything so complicated. If you are balanced evenly over you’re whole foot then nothing else matters. All that other stuff that you mention does not change the CM location in relation to the feet one iota. It might change the way that you look in a stance but it will not change the CM or the CM’s relation to the feet or the sweet spot of the ski when in a neutral position and that is all that matters on binding placement.
Lets face it. The ski manufacturer designed the ski with a sweet spot. Find the center of the sweet spot and nothing else on the ski means a hill of beans. Find the point under you’re feet where a slight forward motion from standing still will tip the balance (CM) in favor of the front of the ski in relation to the sweet spot and then mount you’re bindings so that point on you’re feet is over the sweet spot. You are done then. Everything else about binding placement sol BS. authentic deandre hopkins mens jersey
authentic texans ryan pickett mens jersey Last time I had bindings mounted, I had them mounted so that the ball of my foot was over the center of the running surface. This was substantially forward of where the manufacturer recommended.
This was a totally foreign concept to the guys at the shop. They thought I was nuts. Then I grabbed a Rossignol of the shelf that was almost exactly the same length and shape as my skis. The mounting mark on the Rossis was almost exactly where I had made the mark on my skis, which left them speachless. They had never realized that different manufacturers recommend different mounting points for skis that are very similar. authentic texans randy bullock youth jersey
My skis work great mounted with the ball of the foot over the center of the running surface, and I’ll mount my new skis the same way. texans ryan mallett mens jersey
Help. I tried the balancing board suggestion (both with and without boot just to be safe, didn’t see much of a difference, easier to measure things with boot on). I am not completely sure what “center of ski’s running surface” means. I put the ski on a flat surface and tried to measure from where the ski starts to contact to where it stops contacting, but with twin tips, it seems a little inexact. Is this what is meant? texans ryan pickett mens jersey
Then there is a small engraved line on the ski. Is that the manufacturer’s recommended center? texans damaris johnson mens jersey
texans alfred blue mens jersey The reason I ask is that I am trying to buy one cheap or used pair of skis for my wife and I to share. I am trying to figure out if our balance and boot sizes are such that we can get by without a demo binding. I will use the ski for teaching and moguls and she will use it as a all mountain alternative between her other two pairs. Our boot sizes are such that if mounted correctly, we could adjust a standard binding to either.
retiredat40 to find cord center put the skis running surface to running surface and slid a card under each end. Find the center point between the two cards and that is center of the sweet spot. Forget the manufactures mark on the ski. That mark is for shops to mount bindings by lining the center mark of the boot and that mark up. You want to line the balance point you like up with the the cord center. You don’t want to find the point of balance where you are neutral. You want to find the balance point where the amount of forward movement needed to get the board to tip forward is comfortable without your heels lifting. When you find both points you will likely note that the center boot mark is ahead of where the manufacture suggested it by by a couple of cm. If you are still unsure you can look me up. authentic randy bullock youth jersey
texans justin tuggle mens jersey Just a question to you guys engaged in this (cool) experimentation:
I can definitely understand that those with twin tips, as well as those carving/racing on consistent snow, could comfortably creep forward on their skis without feeling like they’re going over the handlebars. texans randy bullock youth jersey
authentic alfred blue mens jersey But just to be clear, would you say that skiers pounding through crud, sierra powder (read: Cream of Wheat), and the like would benefit from a seriously forward mounted binding as well?
justin tuggle mens jersey In other words, do you guys ski everything in a forward position, or do you specialize in smooth terrain, and that’s why this change enhances your feel and position limited to those conditions?
This is a good question. For those people who are agressive, a racer or young and foolish I would say to leave the bindings mounted in a rearward position. That is especially true if you are going to race seriously. authentic cecil shorts iii mens jersey
texans dj swearinger mens jersey Mounting the bindings forward allows a skier to relax and not really pressure the fronts of the boots at all. A change of technique is required once you move the bindings forward. Once forward, most recreational skiers are in a position to very easily initiate the turn with just a little forward motion. That allows the skier to just roll from edge to edge effortlessly. A lot of power can build up in the turns but with the bindings forward you just stay centered over the skis and feel the power instead of work yourself and the skis.
A few lessons would not be a bad idea once you move the bindings forward. With the bindings mounted rearward, most recreational skiers do not move enough to really engage the tips and are forced to up unweight to initiate the new turn. Once forward, the up unweighting will raise hell with your new mounting position. The skis will seem grabby and and the tails will not want to shove to the side at the top of the turn. You need to learn how to just relax for once roll them on edge and let the ski tips seek the fall line. In other words. The new mounting positions are ideal and take advantage of the modern shaped ski. authentic justin tuggle mens jersey
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